Mafia #47 "Ghost Hunters"

[IceH2O]

Also to tell you the truth I think that hes is sucmmy. Something about his actions, and the way he does them make th seem mafia ish. Whoops wait, ghoulish I mean

And I should be able to get on in the morning and near nightfall.

And ICe if you really want I could print a schuedule out :silly:

What I want to know is, where is Rickets? He hasn't said much. Thats one of the problems I have voting for both ICe or Jpap, their being too obvious. Too out in the open. I wouldn't think that the ghouls or whatever would do that. And all the points that Jpap has made have been decent.

Well, I'll take a printed copy of this to read, and catch up with you all later.

This is the 2nd time in this day cycle you voted for someone, claimed you don't think they are evil but then refuse to remove the vote.

See now, if I wanted to save myself I could vote for Noods, but that would contradict what I said, and probably make you guys even more likely to vote for me.

Damned if you do and damned if you don't huh. Kind of early in the voting at this time to think by moving your vote you'd save yourself. Maybe you can't move to save yourself by getting Noods lynched because then you only get a 50?50 chance at a kill or turn?

I am at work and do not have the time to pull together a detailed, quoted post however I vote to take the soul of Firedancer. I almost voted her last night but decided to hold off. I know it has been explained that she is a notorious low poster, but her late vote on DD with not much explaination or defense of it seems pretty scummy to me. I am certain at least one of the players that voted DD is scum and she is my best bet right now. Altho, I still find Opi and JL suspicious and do not agree with everything Opi has put out there however they both do appear to be trying to help find the scum and not just laying low. Lucky, I don't know....game style seems rather erratic but it could just be "newbness". I am not really getting a scummy feeling on anyone else right now. More later whn I have more time........

I italicized and bolded the statements I want to refrence as to not get it confused with your bolded vote.

You almost voted her last night? But then when Rickets voted her you thought it would be okay to go ahead and vote her now? Why wouldn't you want to be the 1st?

Ice - says Jpap is to jumpy/defensive for day 1 and is suspicious of JL for asking for rules clarifications. Votes Jpap day 1, retracts for DD instead. Puts out a theory about DDoll and Jpap that Fire used to vote DDoll. Is confused about how many evils are running amok day 1. Dislikes Fire's stance on Jpap. Suspects Noods, Lucky, and Fire. (?, do you still suspect her, despite liking her answers?)

I was never suspicious of JL for rule clarification, that was Jpap and a part of the reason why I was suspicious of him Day 1.


Are you saying I said that or are you claiming that is why you voted for DD?

As for suspecting you. I can't say I'm leaning you innocent because of 1 good answer lol.

I do have a problem with that you need to wait to see how votes fall before placing yours. Why would you need to do that except to be a kill vote again or to find a place to hide?

You are still 3rd on my list.


Can I vote for 3 people tonight?

Just to keep things interesting I vote to take the soul of Noodles

Nothing she has said has helped clear her IMO and the case she brought against herself is pretty good.

I feel Lucky is so mixed up in his own lies he might even slip and give us the name of the murderer or admit he is it. So I'll give him another night lol.

 

[FireDancer7905]

I was never suspicious of JL for rule clarification, that was Jpap and a part of the reason why I was suspicious of him Day 1.

Sorry, must have misread the post. Correction noted.

Are you saying I said that or are you claiming that is why you voted for DD?

I voted DDoll based on your posted musings.

As for suspecting you. I can't say I'm leaning you innocent because of 1 good answer lol.

Stranger things have been known to happen in mafia. I was just askin'.

I do have a problem with that you need to wait to see how votes fall before placing yours. Why would you need to do that except to be a kill vote again or to find a place to hide?

See, I don't feel like I do that, but ok. I feel bad about being the 'kill vote' on DDoll, but I wasn't going to change my vote based on that.

You are still 3rd on my list.

Humph.

 

[jpappy789]

See now, if I wanted to save myself I could vote for Noods, but that would contradict what I said, and probably make you guys even more likely to vote for me.

When you said this less than half of the town had voted. So how would switching then save yourself? You are trying to become a sacrificial lamb for the town but I don't think it's working.

hmmm... after John's statement I'm almost afraid to vote for lucky. If lucky's innocent, then I'm a last voter and probably evil. If lucky's evil, then I saw the writing on the wall and voted him to save myself.

The two instant votes on Fire make me nervous. I can see the issue with her, but I'm really more concerned about Noods instant vote response on her after Rickets vote.

Ogre your hesitation is a little concerning. Why should you care what JL says about voting lucky? I would think a vet like you would just go with their own instincts rather than worry about other people.

I realize my vote came pretty quickly after Rickets and that it would look "bad" but I wanted to go ahead and get it out there as my work day has been very hectic and I did not want to wait for evening to place a vote.

As I said, I feel good about voting for someone that was on DD and Fire is the one that sticks out the most right now. Maybe its just cause I am not used to playing with her, I don't know, but that late vote smells scummy to me.....

I was looking pretty hard at Opi yesterday but at this moment I feel she "appears" to be genuine in her attempts to find scum.....(not convinced, but ok for now)

JL, cannot read him at all; seems to be playing same as usual which could mean anything.....:huh:

Lucky, I am very uncomfortable about but not sure if it newb-ness or if he is nervous about being scum or PR.....would be willing to switch my vote to him depending on how the rest of the day goes.........

thankfully we still have quite a bit of time before nightfall for events to perhaps change my mind. I do not like the fact that quite a few players have already said they will not be around much before or at nightfall....I know RL can get in the way but it makes it too convenient for some to hide.....JMO

I have a problem with this...how would not being around during nightfall be different than any other time during the day? Would you not consider that "hiding" as well?

I will not be around at nightfall.

 

[FireDancer7905]

I vote to take the soul of CJ.

I don't like that he has only 5 posts to his name, and is not being called on it. I believe him to be mafia, sliding under the town's radar.

 

[jpappy789]

So fire is voting based on vote count? Scummy.

 

[jpappy789]

should be POST count not vote.

 

[FireDancer7905]

So fire is voting based on vote count? Scummy.

He's added nothing to the discussion, but rather jumps on previously posted opinions and tacks on a thought. He's hiding. I think that that deserves a vote.

 

[luckydud13]

Sucky nightfall. I hate that I was the last vote on DDoll, though I feel like I did have decent reason for Day 1. Anyway, much more interesting things have been happening today.

I don't know what to say to make jpap and Ice feel better about my feelings on Jpap. I thought I explained it, so I know that there's really nothing I can say, other than "it's feeling." It made sense at the time, and I'm still not sure that jpap is anything other than innocent.

Lucky is sort of rubbing me the wrong way, though I have not much to bring up as evidence for the "icky" feeling. The spat with jpap is amusing, and for a moment I was entertaining the idea that maybe they are going at each other to distance from a teammate (I have since let that thought fly away).

I don't think that Rich is currently a candidate for me. His play seems much like mine, watching and posting thoughts as he sees fit. Like rl, not everyone is outspoken.

Noodles, I appreciate the fact that you remembered that I am on mat leave, but that does not mean that I will be on the computer all day. Nightfall isn't until Friday; there is plenty of time for me to stick my foot in my mouth and bother people with my chronically low posting self.

Ice, I can never read you. Ever. That sucks.

And a quiet Ogre is a scary Ogre. Really scary. I agree with Ice that the lone vote is out of character for him, and the vote on noodles was weak, at best. It's odd. Can;t wait to see what he says tonight/tomorrow.

If I had to pick a team right now, it would be Lucky, Opi and....Rickets? Ogre? I just don't know right now.

TTFN!

Bolded: Really you were the last vote on an innocent, two got turned and you call it a good day? Either you perspective is basically to protect yourself, or your out to get the innocents........... This popped out at me.

DD is still looking iffy to me: I think that jpap is innocent. Someone posted a theory that DD is evil, and would not vote him just to prove her innocence. Shortly thereafter, she does the opposite, possibly trying to deflect the suspicion away from herself.

I vote to take the soul of DD.

First of all. If I get criticism for quickly voting for someone because their scummy, I think you should too. This is a bogus answer. And because you were the last to vote means that you had to be following someone else, because if that was the best reason you had to go on...........

And look at the bolded parts.

So obviously who you are refering too is a girl, but why say that DD is a guy and a girl in the same sentance?

I vote to take the soul of CJ.

I don't like that he has only 5 posts to his name, and is not being called on it. I believe him to be mafia, sliding under the town's radar.

And finially, voting for someone because of their vote count, is something that is understandable........ But we really have more to go on than that. Surely there is some deeper meat somewhere in these 40 pages?

Hey! Skimming actuall does help

First time I sat down with two tabs and copy and pasted.

I retract my vote on Jpap, and vote to banish the soul of Fire Dancer

 

[FireDancer7905]

Bolded: Really you were the last vote on an innocent, two got turned and you call it a good day? Either you perspective is basically to protect yourself, or your out to get the innocents........... This popped out at me.

Where did I say that the day was good? I believe the term I used was "sucky."

First of all. If I get criticism for quickly voting for someone because their scummy, I think you should too. This is a bogus answer. And because you were the last to vote means that you had to be following someone else, because if that was the best reason you had to go on...........

This does not mean that I was following someone; it means that I came to my conclusion after other people had, and no one else made the same decision at a time later than myself.

So obviously who you are refering too is a girl, but why say that DD is a guy and a girl in the same sentance?

Please read more carefully: Someone posted a theory that DD is evil, and would not vote him (jpap) just to prove her (DDoll's) innocence.

And finially, voting for someone because of their vote count, is something that is understandable........ But we really have more to go on than that. Surely there is some deeper meat somewhere in these 40 pages?

I like my vote. I think he's evil. You think I'm evil. It happens.

Hey! Skimming actuall does help

Lemme know when it pays off for you. Right now, it looks like you omgus voted and jumped on where there were already votes, with poorly thought out reasons (others have given much better, if still erroneous, cases against me).

First time I sat down with two tabs and copy and pasted.

Fun, huh? Next, you should learn to multi-quote. It's mafia-tastic!

I retract my vote on Jpap, and vote to banish the soul of Fire Dancer

'K. Makes me really wonder about your guilt. I think that maybe if you are really a lost soul, then the murderer would have you under better control by now. Unless you are the murderer, in which case I am in awe of your aggressive, hasty game play.

 

[IceH2O]

Fire I'd love to think you innocent but you keep cementing the #3 spot on my list.

You are voting CJ for the same thing you are doing and that you gave Rich a pass on.

Lets look at your posts and yes this is all of them

Yeah Mafia!!! fwiw, I like the Kiss pandas. I'll be back later if I finish grading.

Fluff

I'm finally on maternity leave! Hurray!!!! I am, however, worn out from setting up with my substitute (who is dumber than a box of rocks, and needed more hand holding than I was prepared for) and saying good-bye to my 85 kiddos. I will read, post and vote when I roll my fat, preggo bum out of bed in the a.m. G'nite!

Fluff

I think that this day one has been slower than most I have played. I considered spicing it up with a ranked, numbered list that means nothing, but decided to lay off until at least day two for that. As of right now, JL, Ogre and DD are the only ones who I have any suspicions of, and I think that it's just because it's habit. I've learned not to trust them, especially JL and Ogre (who completely snowed me a few games back). I don;t think I've played with many of you before, so this should be fun!

**My thoughts are with you, Tib. Hope everything turns out well!**

Where you the 1st to say this or are you just jumping on previously posted ideas and adding a thought?

Ogre, I'm pretty sure you got me a few games back, too. I remember being po'd that I didn't see through it! Anyway, that is completely beside the point.

DD is still looking iffy to me: I think that jpap is innocent. Someone posted a theory that DD is evil, and would not vote him just to prove her innocence. Shortly thereafter, she does the opposite, possibly trying to deflect the suspicion away from herself.

I vote to take the soul of DD.

One post I'll count though it does look like you are pointing a finger at me without naming me for your reason to vote DD.

Because I currently think you are innocent. I didn't see crazy uncalled for defensiveness that others seemed to see, and I think that that means you were truly wondering about the suspicion, and not being shifty. You could be the murderer for all I really know, but I don't think so. Also, "leaning" has gotten me into trouble on day 1 before.

The posts you requested (bolding is my own, for emphasis and irrelevant has been deleted):



The theory I was talking about. ^



And DD doesn't even acknowledge Ice's post. ^ This makes me think she is really evil. My vote is staying.

I'll even give you this post, but again you are finger pointing at me.

Sucky nightfall. I hate that I was the last vote on DDoll, though I feel like I did have decent reason for Day 1. Anyway, much more interesting things have been happening today.

I don't know what to say to make jpap and Ice feel better about my feelings on Jpap. I thought I explained it, so I know that there's really nothing I can say, other than "it's feeling." It made sense at the time, and I'm still not sure that jpap is anything other than innocent.

Lucky is sort of rubbing me the wrong way, though I have not much to bring up as evidence for the "icky" feeling. The spat with jpap is amusing, and for a moment I was entertaining the idea that maybe they are going at each other to distance from a teammate (I have since let that thought fly away).

I don't think that Rich is currently a candidate for me. His play seems much like mine, watching and posting thoughts as he sees fit. Like rl, not everyone is outspoken.

Noodles, I appreciate the fact that you remembered that I am on mat leave, but that does not mean that I will be on the computer all day. Nightfall isn't until Friday; there is plenty of time for me to stick my foot in my mouth and bother people with my chronically low posting self.

Ice, I can never read you. Ever. That sucks.

And a quiet Ogre is a scary Ogre. Really scary. I agree with Ice that the lone vote is out of character for him, and the vote on noodles was weak, at best. It's odd. Can;t wait to see what he says tonight/tomorrow.

If I had to pick a team right now, it would be Lucky, Opi and....Rickets? Ogre? I just don't know right now.

TTFN!

Don't even see CJ on this list. What happened to change your mind?

lol, I did go to the dentist and the optometrist today. Oh, and I took a nap. Does that count?

Jpap, didn't I kinda address the DD vote at the beginning of my post? Of course people are looking at it, but what more could I possibly say to alleviate unease? I felt ok with the vote when I posted it. If mafia, I doubt I would have taken out DD so late in the day. It would have been more prudent at that point to lone vote on a "hunch" to blend in and blame it on 'just being day 1.'

Vet card.

Don't be too jealous. I am on mat leave now, instead of next Monday as planned, because I am borderline for toxemia, and it is exhausting me. The 2 appointments today were about all I could handle without my blood pressure and swelling getting out of control (you should see my cankles!). Come on, baby! Let's do this labor thing, Mommy is done with pregnancy!!!

Fluff

Not much I can say to defend myself from a vote that I already explained. As for timing, well, it was 2 hours before nightfall, not exactly sneaking in under the wire, but I can see how it would seem so when basically everyone else had already voted. I don't know that I can be called out for playing a "vet card," but if that is the way you see it, Rickets, I can't change your mind. My explanation made sense to me, but that's not always saying much. Now, on to today.

To start, who's here? 11 players alive, 2 gone.

There are 3 evils: 1 murderer and 2 lost souls

There are ? Innocent PRs: 1 Dr., and I am assuming 2 Ghost Hunters?

CJ - lost soul ? -- 4 posts, with less info in them than even I give - flying so low under the radar, I actually went back to the player list to make sure they were on it - the only thing cj has done (as of right now) is post about being here, vote Rich, and question Lucky and Ogre (after other people had established them as looking suspicious)

Ogre - quiet for Ogre, but he's rl busy....still.... Says he was thinking about Rich, then CJ votes Rich, and Ogre decided on Rickets. Weird. This vote is retracted to Noods for a weak (although explained, and it was day 1) reason.

Noods - has been kind of all over the place. She is all over Opi after nightfall, more so than her "unease" with me, and yet she votes for me. It's kind of an odd choice, based on how many posts are devoted to trusting other people less. Votes Fire day 2.

Lucky - lost soul - spats with jpap, taunts jpap ("go ahead and try to start a train"), tells Ice that in different game he had to careful of drawing suspicion because he was a pr, implying that now he doesn't have that problem. This is most worrisome to me, as it asks for a pass, but there in a new game, you never now who might draw what.

John - votes DDoll day 1. Suspects Lucky, Rickets, Rich and Noods at different times. Votes for Lucky - says that if Lucky comes out evil, Ogre is probably also evil.

Fire - voted DDoll day 1. Doesn't post much, but does answer questions asked of her. Suspects Lucky, CJ, Noods on Day 2.

Rich - Votes JL on the theory that he is more talkative once turned. Suspects Opi, Noods and is amused by jpap in post 331. Post 344, says Jpap is now on his list, no reason given.

Opi - First says that all who voted DDoll are innocent, then recants, and says that it was a place to work from, but not all is set in stone. Has spent most of the time since night defending/explaining herself. Lots of "perhaps"
and ifs in her posts.

Pap - Spatting with Lucky, aggresively. Worried about Fire because Fire says she believes him innocent. Suspects Lucky, Noods, Rich, Opi, Fire. Votes Lucky.

Ice - says Jpap is to jumpy/defensive for day 1 and is suspicious of JL for asking for rules clarifications. Votes Jpap day 1, retracts for DD instead. Puts out a theory about DDoll and Jpap that Fire used to vote DDoll. Is confused about how many evils are running amok day 1. Dislikes Fire's stance on Jpap. Suspects Noods, Lucky, and Fire. (?, do you still suspect her, despite liking her answers?)

[AC] Rickets - votes DDoll. Is suspicious of Jpap for low posting, defensiveness. Suspects Fire, Ogre. Votes Fire day 2.

[AC] Tiburon - UD, innocent
Doll - Lynched - innocent

Whew! That was a lot of reading! I put this together mostly for my own review, so I can see who is doing what. I am leaning towards voting for CJ right now, but need to look at how people's suspicions/votes are related before I place a vote.

A 4th post with substance though the list isn't really a list as much as it is, in your words, a review of whats happened.


The last couple of posts have been your vote and some fluff. So all together I can give you maybe 4 posts of substance.