sexing gold rams?

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got another question - how can you sex this fish? i've got 4 and 2 are slightly larger than the others and much more vivid in color - one has beautiful yellow on his face with electric blue flecks on his fins a gorgeous fish! the other of the bigger two has similar colors - then the smaller two are just a pale yellow color all over - they must be younger - are they females because they have less color or when they grow a little bit more will they gain more color?
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First off, gold rams are a color bred strain so some of the rules don't apply to them as it would with regular rams. Generally Males are larger, their 2nd and 3rd dorsal rays are twice as long as the others. Females will often display a pinkish stomach area. Color, except for the pink, is not a way to distinguish between male and female rams, Both are extremely colorful and have the same coloration for the most part. You said you have 4 rams, watch them, if two hang out together, thats probably a pair, and if you are keeping all 4 in the same tank, your askin for trouble. The male rams are actually most tollerant of each other than females. Males will generally only show off and occassionally bite each other, however females are known to continue their assault on each other untill one is dead, and I've had it happen. Keep an eye on them and if you see what looks to be a pair, remove the other two. And this question could have easily been anwsered by a quick bit of research, and probably could have been avoided even being asked. Just next time do a bit of looking around on the net before hand.
 
i did research it

and from what i was told they are peaceful fish - i was told you coul keep between 2 and 6 of them in a tank if your gonna get all pissy about answering a question then don't bother -
anyhow i have 4 in a 55 g two are very colorful i think they are males and two are very dul and pale looking with no yellow to them at all really i think they are females - one of what i believe to be males is a loner he usually keeps to himself while the other 3 are always sticking together - i plan on moving one pair to my 20g when they pair off -
can you keep the gold rams with blue rams?
if so how many
 
I just did a search on google for sexing gold rams, and I came up with plenty of hits that provided accurate information. You may have been told they are peaceful fish, which is true in relation to other tank mates, but a pair will not tolerate another in their tank. Eventually one of the pairs will wither away and die. As I said before, Color has NO bearing on sexing rams outside of the pinkish belly. Rams aren't as a rule of thumb peaceful amongst themselves. Rams will pair off at the age of 2months, and aren't picky about their mates, if you put a male and female together, your more likely than not going to end up with a good pair. If you were going to have a split pair of blues and yellows, meaning a blue male/female with a yellow male/female, then yes you can. But deffinately not more than one pair in a tank. I have tried a couple of times in a heavily planted tank with plenty of refuges and areas to be used as territories and one pair will always become dominant and out compete and stress the other. The Loner you mention is most likely getting picked on and is stressed, and rams that are dull in color are not happy rams. Dull coloration usually indicates stress, unsuitable water conditions, or disease/parasite infection.
 
Originally posted by NatakuTseng
And this question could have easily been anwsered by a quick bit of research, and probably could have been avoided even being asked. Just next time do a bit of looking around on the net before hand.

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