Parrot myth

dwarfgourami7

dwarfgourami7

Steve the angelfish
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So then, parrot fish, hybrid or not? Well for all of you who don't think it is. Good for you. Those who do are wrong. You see when it comes to hybrids they lack the required amount of chromosomes to breed. Seeing as they have been bread before they have to be real fish and not a hybrid. JUst to let you know.
 
It is a hybrid fish. If you have any proof to dispute this i would love to see it.


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Parrot fish are man-made cross-bred fish, and a controversial one at that. Although they've been on the market for well over a decade, they were not seen widely in pet shops before the year 2000. Usually sold under the name of Blood or Bloody Parrots, they should not be confused with freshwater Parrot Cichlids (Hoplarchus Psittacus), or the saltwater Parrot Fish (Callyodon fasciatus). Many fish enthusiasts feel they should not be allowed on the market. Some go so far as to boycott shops that sell them. Controversy even exists over their parentage. The most likely pairings are the Midas Cichlid (Cichlasoma citrinellum) and the Redhead Cichlid (Cichlasoma synspilum), or a green or gold Severum (Heros severus or Cichlasoma severum) with the Red Devil (Cichlasoma erythraeum). I personally believe many of the "calico" Bloody Parrots seen on the market are from the latter pairing. It is also possible that Amphilophus labiatus, or even Archocentrus species are used in creating Bloody Parrots. Regardless of their heritage, one thing is certain - they do not exist in nature

Here are a few links for you to read.

http://freshaquarium.about.com/cs/cichlids1/a/bloodparrot.htm?terms=how+to+care+for+gold+fish

http://cichlidresearch.com/parrot.html

http://experts.about.com/q/Fish-1472/Parrot-Fish-1.htm
 
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These are blood parrots your talking about correct? not parrot chiclids or sw parrot fish?

wow, i must give you credit, for a 15 year old to have understand that is impressive.

Unfortunatly you are wrong. To declare them a single (pure) species they have to produce Fertile Offspring. While blood parrots have been know to pair off and lay eggs, ussually the eggs are infertile and are eaten by the parents. Also i've found no reports of anyone raising there third generation of parrot fish.

The cases where a blood parrot has been able to produce live young, there line was generaly breed back into one of the species they desceded from.
 
Those who do are wrong. You see when it comes to hybrids they lack the required amount of chromosomes to breed. Seeing as they have been bread before they have to be real fish and not a hybrid. JUst to let you know.
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an interesting albeit completely erroneous diatribe. in other words 'dwarf gourami', you have no idea what you're talking about. The blood parrot cichlid is definitely a man-made hybrid. The exact origins of the fish are unclear but it appears to be a cross between a South American cichlid, Heros severus and a Central American cichlid, Amphilophus citrinellus or the red devil Amphilophus labiatus.

while there are 'some' reports that this hybrid has been successfully bred, these reports are by non-scientific sources and purely anecdotal. in fact, the only validated reports of viable spawns are by fish farms using males injected with hormones. additionally, there have been sporadic cases of successful spawnings, but these have been shown to have been crossed with a non-hybrid male, typically a convict cichlid.
 
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So then, parrot fish, hybrid or not? Well for all of you who don't think it is. Good for you. Those who do are wrong. You see when it comes to hybrids they lack the required amount of chromosomes to breed. Seeing as they have been bread before they have to be real fish and not a hybrid. JUst to let you know.
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females can breed. thay is how "jelly bean" parrots are made- male convict x femals blood parrot. breeders dye them for one reason; to be dyed. they have a white color but they are not albino.

some blood parrots are a cross between a severum and a firemouth (normal blood parrot) and others are a cross between a severum and a red devil (king kong parrot. they get MUCH bigger and develop the nachal hump)

more and more males are able to breed also, and then their offspring are able to breed also.

regular blood parrots get to be about 8" long, and IME they gain some of the use of their mouths (juvenile blood parrots cannot move their mouths whatsoever)
 
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How do they eat if they can't move their mouths?
 
There mouths kill me such deformed things makes me feel so sorry for them. Some hybrids can in fact breed fertile off spring any how. I had a tank with some mix breed africans and they managed to pair off and breed. But honestly if it is not a hybird then just tell me the scientific classifcation and the debate will be over.
 
We all know or heard of the common mule (donkey and horse) they can't breed what-so-ever, being hybrids. The same applies to parrots. Because people have bread them they can't be hybrids.
 
the "jelly bean" convict cross parrots can sometimes breed, the true blood parrots can not. not all hybrids are sterile, it depends on how far removed they are from each other. in fact, most blood parots would be able to breed if they were not first *chemically sterilized* to prevent it. why allow fishkeepers to breed for free when it costs the asian companies lots of $ to produce the fish?
 
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