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CWO4GUNNER

CWO4GUNNER

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RodinCali always seems to post the great eBay deals so here was my opportunity to post one. At least in price and "Buy-now" availability. Id buy it but I diden't like the owners reviews. You have to do your research you know. See reviews at bottom page of the bottom link. I expected better reviews, but when you consider the carts are about the size as the micron carts used in the Magnum 250, its no wonder they clog. Perhaps in another year they will be down to $200.
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http://www.practicalfishkeeping.co.uk/content.php?sid=2585

"I've been using the G6 for over a month now. It has a lot of good ideas (I hate breaking down my Eheim canisters), but I don't think that it delivers, especially given the price ($500).

I find that the prefilter completely clogs by the end of the week, reducing the outflow to a trickle. This is on a 150 gallon tank that also has an Emperor 400 HOB and Eheim 2028 canister.

I heard that the prefilters can be damaged by using the cleaning brush, so I purchased an extra prefilter and clean the dirty one with a bleach solution.

Given 20/20 hindsight, I would go for another Eheim.

Mike"
 
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I could build 4 complete wet dry filter systems for the price of that fluval, NO way I would buy one of those fluvals to small and way over priced.
 
RodInCALIFORNIA said:
I could build 4 complete wet dry filter systems for the price of that fluval, NO way I would buy one of those fluvals to small and way over priced.
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An aside: Speaking of Wet/Dry sump tank filters which you prefer in high 50+ gallon water volume configurations even though same size filter socks or media boxes do the same work in much lower water volumes. I had a big learning experiences yesterday that proved my point that small sump volumes are better. One of my two Bombay cats pawed off the siphon brake airline which is supposed to stop the sump tank from overfilling if power is lost. But in this case becasue power was not lost but only the siphon was broken (a more likely scenario) which could very easily happen with out the cats help (one siphon or two), the entire content of the sump pump tried to overfill my 244 tank. Fortunately becasue my sump & auto-fill tank combined are only 10 gallons (Tom Rapids PS4) that scenario never occurred but would have had I had an extra unneeded 40 gallons in the sump tank to spill out on the floor. This really hit home for me why there is little benefit to risk flooding with excessively high water volume sump tanks, especially when filter sock or media boxes of the same size fit and fulfill the same purpose and performance inside far smaller sump tank with less water volume and potential saving on property damage. Especially when you multiply the possibility of a "lost siphon with pump power" scenario for multiply tanks, the possibility becomes likely over time.

I feel what almost happen to me was eye opening and important enough to bring up in the strongest of terms, especially for those considering sumps.
 
I have never lost siphon and no cats or kids to mess with my tanks. I dont think this is a issue I will have I use dual overflow boxes each with 3 U tubes even if 1 should lose siphon the other 2 can handle it and I dont see 3 U tubes failing at one time.
And my small herd of tea cup chihuahua's couldnt get anywhere near my sumps or overflow boxes.
my sumps are all 55G but they are only maybe 1/3 full of water at any time I dont keep them filled to the rim.
 
Im just sounding a warning, they don't build those PS4 sumps tall, narrow and low volume for nothing. Its to take advantage of the lowest water volume to prevent flooding while maintain a high enough water level for pump intake. All the more stagnant water not in use the more chance for nitrate buildup.

Also! Remember the more J tubes you have for a given pump, the lower the siphon velocity which allows bubble accumulation and eventual loss of siphon, causing the same problem as having a weak pump, when In actuality all that is needed is increased drain flow accomplished by elimination of the PVC drain pipe coupling which cause restriction.
 
I think I have been building and using wet dry filters long enough to know how much flow I need to keep air bubbles from building in my U tubes. I think I'm the one who told you, you werent getting enough flow thats why you were getting air bubbles in your U tube. I use 2 pumps on each sump in case of a pump failure I still maintain flow. And I do weekly 50% water changes so I dont worry about nitrate buildup issues.
We both have our different views on wet dry filters & weekly water changes what works for me may not work for you and vice versa. Thanks for the advice but I'm going to leave things the way I have them set up now its very stable and effective.
 
Well your right I don't know exactly what you have only what you have revealed, and yes you did advise me that my slow siphon was due to a weak pump and a more powerful one would be needed, after-which discovered and advised that by increasing the diameter of the pump output hose I was able to increase GPH significantly without spending for an additional pumps drains, or siphons. So all I have been doing is returning your good recommendations with new refined options. I just think there are good alternatives to having to run and maintain 2 pumps, 2 drains, and 3 siphons for just one wet/dry system. I am just sharing my finding, alternatives, and ideas with others and you that's all, which is a good thing and probubly wont be the last time I do it.

OK then, back to topic. You know I thought you would have been the first keeper to buy a G3 or G6 becasue of its ease of use. Even I was tempted by the promise of swapping out carts without having to touch the canister. But I think we both recognize that the price, capacity, and endurance just don't meet new demand for larger tanks and aging fish keepers like us. You have to give them credit for great looks though. I almost wish that it worked better and was cheaper. ;)
 
I've got a G3 and frankly its been the best fish equipment investment i've made! I was skeptical when I first got it that it was more hype than its worth but for me it works great.

Maintenance is a doddle flip the leaver, open the hatch, twist the filter or the carbon section and its out. Even my mrs can change the filter (if i'm away on business and leave the 2nd cartridge clean and ready for her) something which would never happen if she had to get her hands dirty.

When doing a water change I give the filter a quick scrub with a brush in the old water, insert it back in, lower the leaver and it splutters back into life rarely needing to be re-primed!

I would say that for the money I would like to have had a internal heater or maybe even a UV unit. But it does give you an early warning if suddenly water quality drops!

To sum up its pretty, pricey and does the job very well, I would recommend one!
 
danielh144 said:
I've got a G3 and frankly its been the best fish equipment investment i've made! I was skeptical when I first got it that it was more hype than its worth but for me it works great.

Maintenance is a doddle flip the leaver, open the hatch, twist the filter or the carbon section and its out. Even my mrs can change the filter (if i'm away on business and leave the 2nd cartridge clean and ready for her) something which would never happen if she had to get her hands dirty.

When doing a water change I give the filter a quick scrub with a brush in the old water, insert it back in, lower the leaver and it splutters back into life rarely needing to be re-primed!

I would say that for the money I would like to have had a internal heater or maybe even a UV unit. But it does give you an early warning if suddenly water quality drops!

To sum up its pretty, pricey and does the job very well, I would recommend one!
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So did the price on this new G6 surprise you compared to what you paid, or did you also get a comparable deal on your G3 as well? Im assuming the G6 is significantly larger.
 
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