Myths about the Elephant Nose

It is possible for them to eat flakes. Its not unheard of. They will not accept it immediatly and it may take them a LONG time, if ever to accept it. I never seen my elephant nose, nor my dads, eat flakes. I just want to make it clear to people interested in elephant noses as pets, not to expect them to eat flakes.




Matt: Im not sure which kinds you have. I am familiar with the common elephant nose. In your profile, it said your a student. So you must be younger then 25 (college or high school?) anyways, My point to you is, you said you HAD them? what happened? these guys live upwards to 20 years...

Oh..if you have any pictures of them, I would be interested in seeing what they look like. I seen a few different varieties, but they dont seem as "pretty" as the common elephant nose.
 
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THey were boring as hell... got rid of them to make room for a pair of wild satanoperca jurupari...

I had baby whales as well... they ate flakes, all 3 of them. I was kinda in and out of tropical fish and was getting into predators more and more. I'd sell some tropicals and get more predatory types, then I'd reconsider, set up anotehr tank for community, etc.

and BTW, if you're taking specialized medical courses, you can be over 25...
 
As far as added salt, no, they can't handle it. They also can't handle most chemical medications (it causes their skin to peel. spoken from experience...). This is what makes this breed of fish tough to keep, since you have to rely on other options to treat ich, fungus, etc. I've never seen a mormyrid accept flake food, but I'm not convinced that they won't. Then again, that would be like training an arrowana that grew up on feeders to eat flakes. Wild-caught insectivores/carnivores have a hard time adjusting to things like that.
 
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Pinball queen: At one point when I was just introducing new fish for my tank, one of them brought in ICH. only spread to 1 or 2 other fish, but I had to treat the tank with a special ICH medication for SCALELESS fish. This type of medication cost about 3 times as much as your normal Ich medication.... BUT you gotta do what you gotta do right???

Hey queen, want to start this religion up again and WORSHIP our elephant nose? Hehe
 
Originally posted by wetmanNY
And during this period, before the Cross was worshiped, the fish was a widespread icon for the Christ.
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Must.... resist.... upbringing....

The icon has nothing to do with smart fish, it's the whole "become a fisher of men" thing that Jesus told the apostles to be... cause half of them were fishermen...


*shudder* Catholic school flashback, I'll try to keep it under control...
 
I think the time they were worshiped were when the Egyptians were in power. I am not sure if the religion survived during the roman period and by the time chistianity came along, this particular religion sect disapeared. So...if it wasnt for chistianity, would we still be worshipping the elephant nose?
 
That's like saying, "If it wasn't for a big rock, would we all be scale-less donisaurs instead of hairless apes?"

Some things are best left unthought-about :)
 
I just wonder where would we be if the elephant nose was still worshipped? would we still be able to have them as pets?
 
Religions go underground when a new religion is imposed. The icons get a new "official" designation, and then they survive. Look at Santeria and other amalgams of Christian superstructure on top of African-AmerIndian practices.

Before the Romans inherited Egypt from Cleopatra VII, the Macedonian Ptolemies ruled. They were very smart to have themselves portrayed as Pharaohs, installed in the temples, careful to perform every traditional rite. The Romans were a little more casual, but there are interesting egyptianized portraits of Roman emperors and governors.

So the fish symbol of the Christ, as a "fisher of men" had an extra resonance in Christianized Egypt.

Back into the Middle Kingdom and maybe before, Egyptian temples and the walled compounds of the governing class had rectangular pools in courtyards, with papyrus reeds, lotus, ducks, Tilapia (for food perhaps) and mormyrid fish. They are represented in tipped-on-edge perspective in tomb paintings: one of the amenities you were going to need in the afterlife. One of the big museums has a painted clay model of such a courtyard fishpool. Curators like to emphasize the practical aspects-- Tilapia is a food fish-- but the mormyrid fish shown suggest to me that the squared pools were a formalized representation of the whole sacred ecology of the Nile (without hippos and crocs, both of which also represented gods, BTW).
 
Originally posted by Mattimeo
THey were boring as hell... got rid of them to make room for a pair of wild satanoperca jurupari.
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How long have you had your juruparis? I have two. Do you know how to sex them? I have had a hard time trying to find GOOD info on them. I think what their name means is interesting too.
 
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