diy co2 diffuser new idea

jmhart said:
There's not really any point to your design. All it will do is reduce flow by a very large degree. The design the jbradt linked to results in 100% diffusion if built correctly.

Your design will be a headache to build, and truly it will not provide any benefit.


Before I used an inline diffuser, it was easy for me to see how it would work and why it would result in 100% diffusion, but it's kind of what I do for a living. I can see where some people would have problems visualizing how/why it would work, but just know that it does.
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i am a little confused as to how you can say this. have you built this setup before? it is the same concept as the one linked, just with a mixer instaled. i am not shure how much flow will be lost but i will fined out for you all.
if i have to much loss of flow i will removed the 90's and 45's and presto i have the same one as linked.
 
iamvictor2k said:
i am a little confused as to how you can say this. have you built this setup before? it is the same concept as the one linked, just with a mixer instaled. i am not shure how much flow will be lost but i will fined out for you all.
if i have to much loss of flow i will removed the 90's and 45's and presto i have the same one as linked.
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I'm interested to hear about the flow rate loss from your experiment. I'm having trouble seeing where your design improves on the original though. I think it will cut flow too much to efficiently dissolve the CO2.

I love experiments though, and will be waiting for the results of yours. In the end, I think you'll end up removing it.
 
iamvictor2k said:
i am a little confused as to how you can say this. have you built this setup before? it is the same concept as the one linked, just with a mixer instaled. i am not shure how much flow will be lost but i will fined out for you all.
if i have to much loss of flow i will removed the 90's and 45's and presto i have the same one as linked.
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Well, I can state theoretically why it works, but also I've used that design for a couple of years now and it works great. All co2 stays in the chamber until it is dissolved.

Like jrandt, I just don't see your design adding any value. The "original" design as linked dissolves 100% of the CO2 (when built correctly) so there's nothing that can be built that would make it any better. All your design will do is reduce flow.

Try not to reinvent the wheel, go with what works.

I can see what you are trying to do. It's kind of the idea behind the turbo twist UVs. Ignoring the fact that it will greatly reduce flow, it would help dissovle co2...if the original design didn't already dissolve 100% of CO2.
 
jbradt said:
I'm interested to hear about the flow rate loss from your experiment. I'm having trouble seeing where your design improves on the original though. I think it will cut flow too much to efficiently dissolve the CO2.

I love experiments though, and will be waiting for the results of yours. In the end, I think you'll end up removing it.
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well thanks and keep an eye out.
 
jmhart said:
Well, I can state theoretically why it works, but also I've used that design for a couple of years now and it works great. All co2 stays in the chamber until it is dissolved.

Like jrandt, I just don't see your design adding any value. The "original" design as linked dissolves 100% of the CO2 (when built correctly) so there's nothing that can be built that would make it any better. All your design will do is reduce flow.

Try not to reinvent the wheel, go with what works.
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sounds like a plan. are you 100% sure that 100% is defused? is there a way to be sure of this? or are you just looking at it and not able to see microscopic bubbles leaving the chamber? its kined of like saying that with a uv sterilizer as long as water passes through the chamber every thing is dead. in all actuality if you have to high of a flow or not enough light surface water contact then your just wasting electricity.
 
iamvictor2k said:
sounds like a plan. are you 100% sure that 100% is defused? is there a way to be sure of this? or are you just looking at it and not able to see microscopic bubbles leaving the chamber? its kined of like saying that with a uv sterilizer as long as water passes through the chamber every thing is dead. in all actuality if you have to high of a flow or not enough light surface water contact then your just wasting electricity.
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If you can't see bubbles, it's all dissolved. It is like a UV, if the chamber isn't long enough or if the pump/flow is too strong, it won't work. For example, a 500 gph pump is about as high as you want to go for about a 12" reactor. Stronger pump needs a longer chamber.
 
jmhart said:
If you can't see bubbles, it's all dissolved. It is like a UV, if the chamber isn't long enough or if the pump/flow is too strong, it won't work. For example, a 500 gph pump is about as high as you want to go for about a 12" reactor. Stronger pump needs a longer chamber.
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ok the question was can you say 100% that all is defused?????? do you have a way of testing this???? can you show prof on other web sites that if you cant visually see bubbles then 100% is defused.
 
jmhart said:
If you are wanting to inject CO2 into a 125, you may want try to inject at both ends of the tank. 6 ft tanks can be difficult to get thorough co2 diffusion.
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thanks. i will take that into account. i will run a t/y barb fitting off my line and send into both sides.
 
iamvictor2k said:
ok the question was can you say 100% that all is defused?????? do you have a way of testing this???? can you show prof on other web sites that if you cant visually see bubbles then 100% is defused.
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Dude, it's gas. Undissolved gas results in bubbles, even small ones that are visible. Dissolved gas can't be seen.

You really can see it. If it's not getting dissolve, it looks misty, almost cloudy. If it is getting dissolve it's crystal clear.



If you don't trust it, build both reactors and try it out. I'm just trying to save you some flow, headache, and cash.
 
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