A Terrorist - Nonetheless...

125gJoe said:
So...

Everybody listen, and know..

We are in a Holy War right now.

The "muslims" preach death to "non-believers" and those that don't convert..
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Holy ignorance Batman! For someone who claims to know history, you seem to be quite ignorant on the history of Muslims and the current situation. Get a grip on reality.

This is no worse than the crap pulled off in the past by Christians, but I suspect you're so deep in denial, you won't accept that what extremist Muslims are doing now is no worse than what extremist Christians have done in the past.
 
125gJoe said:
OH..

OK.

Maybe later then, when it doesn't count.

In your mind -- after 3,000 ... who's counting American lives anyway?


...Guess it's always - just "another day - sucking air" - The it's a Good day?




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Go take some meds and come back when you are sane. I like you Joe, but you have seriously jumped the couch this time.
 
joephys said:
Everyone believes in something, even atheists have a belief. No matter what belief structures are out there, there are going to be people that think that people should die if they don't fall into what they believe is right. I don't think there is any main stream religion out there that actually says we need to kill non-believers.
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First off "the Koran describes non-believers as evil and people who can expect war from God (3.151)". Interpret as you want. Osama and thousands of terrorists have already done so.

What I believe is right is that we MUST be completely tolerant of each other as long as we respect each other. Both must be done simultaneously for this to work. Religion teaches non-tolerance and is therefore inflammatory and counterproductive to continued survival of humanity. In a technologically advanced civilization that is also a definition of species-suicide.

But it's all ok, cause we are going to a 'better place' after we die right? Crap.

With cultural dogma (AKA religions) you have groups of people or even entire countries willing to kill and die for a cause that goes beyond what happens to us while we are alive. With a personal belief you have a wacko that shoots/kills a couple people or blows up a relatively small building.

Which do you think is a more dangerous scenario to a creature that can make nuclear intercontinental ballistic missiles?
 
Go read the Koran, verse 3.151 says to put fear in the hearts of nonbelievers. Basically, to out and get converts to islam, not to kill them. Everything you read online about a religion isn't true.

you know, I also heard that a mighty eagle will fly from the west and strike down islam. :rolleyes:
 
Doesn't the Bible have a similar thing in it? Why yes it does, but it's interpeted differently so as not to sound so bad. Not everything you believe about another religion is true either.
 
Watcher74 said:
First off "the Koran describes non-believers as evil and people who can expect war from God (3.151)". Interpret as you want. Osama and thousands of terrorists have already done so.

What I believe is right is that we MUST be completely tolerant of each other as long as we respect each other. Both must be done simultaneously for this to work. Religion teaches non-tolerance and is therefore inflammatory and counterproductive to continued survival of humanity. In a technologically advanced civilization that is also a definition of species-suicide.

But it's all ok, cause we are going to a 'better place' after we die right? Crap.

With cultural dogma (AKA religions) you have groups of people or even entire countries willing to kill and die for a cause that goes beyond what happens to us while we are alive. With a personal belief you have a wacko that shoots/kills a couple people or blows up a relatively small building.

Which do you think is a more dangerous scenario to a creature that can make nuclear intercontinental ballistic missiles?
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Thats all fine and dandy, but its not realistic. There is always going to be some form of religion out there no matter how much some people think that religion is all messed up, and there are always going to be people that think that think that people need to die for not following their religion.

The Japaneese empire killed all sorts of people during World War II, Sadam killed a bunch of people when he invaded Kuwait, Stalin killed 10 million of his own people. None of these had anything to do with religion, it was about power. If its not one thing its somethinge else. Getting rid of religion isn't the answer.
 
joephys said:
.... I don't think there is any main stream religion out there that actually says we need to kill non-believers. .....
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Hit the books again, for you and I are "infidels". Sorry about my bluntness, but it's the way a few billion see it.


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joephys said:
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Everyone believes in something, ...
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Excellent point!
I believe "be-headings" and "terrorism" is wrong.

And, back on Topic, this is clearly an act of terrorism.
And, some that don't think it is, might have that happen close by, and then they would think rationally, factually.
This act is not only an act of terrorism, but also a "hate crime"...

Sorry to bring you the sad news, but it seems mainstream media is afraid of reporting the news. ..."let's be politically correct and not offend anyone.."

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Lauren said:
Go take some meds and come back when you are sane. I like you Joe, but you have seriously jumped the couch this time.
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I like you too.
It's time to 'understand' the real world. Today.
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I will try to keep you updated.
Thank me later...

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joephys said:
Thats all fine and dandy, but its not realistic. There is always going to be some form of religion out there no matter how much some people think that religion is all messed up, and there are always going to be people that think that think that people need to die for not following their religion.

The Japaneese empire killed all sorts of people during World War II, Sadam killed a bunch of people when he invaded Kuwait, Stalin killed 10 million of his own people. None of these had anything to do with religion, it was about power. If its not one thing its somethinge else. Getting rid of religion isn't the answer.
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So instead of taking one step forward, we should take one step back? I never said that religion is the ONLY thing that prevents humanity from getting along. Only that it is the most socially accepted form of "racism" that is still tolerated.

Yes, I said racism. Has nothing to do with skin color, country of origin, etc. Religion is the same as racism. The exact same. Be a devout White Supremacist or be a devout Catholic. Same thing. Bullsh*t reason to make another group "less". And therefore more deserving of eradication.

You say that getting rid of religion is not the answer. I say it's a good, dam* start.
 
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