Head-n-Tail Light Tetras?

G_Knicks

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As the title suggests, I am going to purchase them. I know they school so I will get 5, but I also want other tetras species in my tank(20gallon established). I know H&TL tetras are more deeper bodied then other tetras and a bit larger so neons are out of the question.
 
I started my first aquarium (this century, the last one being in the 1960s) with 4 H&Ts in August 2006, doing what turned out to be a fishy cycle. I still have one left, so I think of them as being fairly hardy (the next to last one got dropsy, I think, and died last week). I have that remaining one and another (I got in September 06), and while rather ordinary looking, they are both personable and friendly. Size of each: maybe 1.5 inches including tail. Well built (I don't know about "deeper bodied"), fish shaped, gold with black spots. I'm tempted to get more to bring up my population of that 6-gallon tank from 4 (2 H&T & 2black neons) but I'd also kind of like a Betta fish (i.e., something fancier)... I also have 4 glow-light tetras in a 10 gallon and they are pretty, a bit smaller than the H&Ts. So I can recommend H&Ts as a good, all-around fish, if that was your question. For a 20-gal tank you can probably get, oh, 6-8 H&Ts and 6-8 or more of another similar size fish (glow lights, black neons, pygmy cories...)
 
Well I think that's a bit overstocking it don't you think? I was thinking 5 head&tail lights and 5 of some other tetra, that's it. I hate doing PWC's cause I'm too lazy so the less bioload I have the less water changes I have to do. And I dont feel that filling a tank to the maximum is the only way to enjoy a tank.
 
I know H&TL tetras are more deeper bodied then other tetras and a bit larger so neons are out of the question.
Why are neons out of the question? Are those H&TLs bullies? This would be my primary reason not to try that combination, and then aesthetic considerations.

I know that Serpae tetras are little pests. The flame tetras that I had were also constantly fighting, and I just removed the last one from my 20L because he confined the glowlights to some ever shrinking space. Glowlights are very docile, but I'm not sure whether you like the color combination with H&TLs.
 
Your reply to DebbyS was a bit harsh for someone only trying to offer her own experience...

Schooling fish like to be in groups around 5-7+ so you should be good. As for bioloading, I often find feeding is the largest factor in determining my maintenance routine. Although clearly the bio-mass in a tank plays a big role.

If your Sig reflects your 20G tank and you are adding another 5 H-n-TLs, you will quickly be quite full in there. Are you planning on moving the frys out? Also, the guppies will just keep having more and more babies! :eek:
 
As for bioloading, I often find feeding is the largest factor in determining my maintenance routine. Although clearly the bio-mass in a tank plays a big role.
I agree with this. In addition to the impact of feeding, tetras have a much lower bioload than guppies. They produce only a tiny fraction of the waste that guppies produce.
 
He said he had a 20-gallon tank, but I overlooked the word "established", which may mean he already has some tank occupants [or it could mean he has only plants and rocks and it's ready for fish:)] My H&Ts will chase each other around, but I've never seen any actual damage done, no actual nipping, more like bumping and "Let's swim real fast through these plants -- tag, you're it!" and "I'll get you for that!" but then in a few seconds the chaser forgets why he/she was chasing. I do have a plump female black neon who claims half the 6G tank and chases others away (they keep returning) -- until yesterday, when my smaller male BN turned the tables and was chasing her everywhere. Ah, sex! But I find H&Ts to be easy going.
 
Your reply to DebbyS was a bit harsh for someone only trying to offer her own experience...

Schooling fish like to be in groups around 5-7+ so you should be good. As for bioloading, I often find feeding is the largest factor in determining my maintenance routine. Although clearly the bio-mass in a tank plays a big role.

If your Sig reflects your 20G tank and you are adding another 5 H-n-TLs, you will quickly be quite full in there. Are you planning on moving the frys out? Also, the guppies will just keep having more and more babies! :eek:

Sorry, I forgot to mention that I am removing all of my fish and fry.

DebbyS, I did not mean you directly when I said I don't overstock a tank to make it look nicer, but other people who choose to do that. So sorry for the misunderstanding.
 
Well then now that I think of it, how would rummynose or lemon tetras work out?
 
Well then now that I think of it, how would rummynose or lemon tetras work out?
If you have soft water, try it. In hard water, both species tend to look a bit dull, and rummynoses might not do well.

I'm not sure whether lemon tetras behave well to others. Someone with more experience with them might want to add to that.
 
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