Changing water & testing

[sumthin fishy]

She said I shouldn't have changed the water, that I needed to leave it natural for at least one month.

See what I mean? lol. Too often they don't get taught the science behind it. Usually isn't their fault. Just be careful taking advice from them. There is an old school of thought to get some cheap feeder fish, leave them for a month, and the tank will be cycled. Also the fish will suffer, and possibly die, and if not you are stuck with an unhealthy fish you didn't want in the first place. Not very humane. I'm sure quite a few of us did this because we didn't know any better, but I would have never if i knew the right way from the start. Good to see you keeping with it!

 

[Tifftastic]

She said I shouldn't have changed the water, that I needed to leave it natural for at least one month.

I agree. . . unfortunately my training from corp was that I should tell customers to not touch the water the first month or two and that would let the tank cycle. Luckily, my boss was a super fish nerd and got me taught up right and actually led me onto here and MFK. Its because of him that I know what I know and actually have the degree I have with getting the master's I am and the PhD opportunity I got offered. . . agh, wine . .. I digress.

Yes, I recommend that you spend any time you can educating yourself before trusting the shop girls/guys . . . they might be knowledgeable (my store always was) but they could also be full of corp BS. . . its a roll of the dice on what you're gonna get. . .

 

[Betts Baby]

See what I mean? lol. Too often they don't get taught the science behind it. Usually isn't their fault. Just be careful taking advice from them. There is an old school of thought to get some cheap feeder fish, leave them for a month, and the tank will be cycled. Also the fish will suffer, and possibly die, and if not you are stuck with an unhealthy fish you didn't want in the first place. Not very humane. I'm sure quite a few of us did this because we didn't know any better, but I would have never if i knew the right way from the start. Good to see you keeping with it!

Thanks now I'm on a new dilemma, I guess cuz I got fish from a mom & pop pet store, or maybe because my lil buddies were stressed...but it's ich...lil dots all over. I read on the web to use malachite green, or other remedies, but it's best to remove fish & doctor the tank...startin to feel like a Captain Nemo adventure...any thoughts?

 

[Betts Baby]

I agree. . . unfortunately my training from corp was that I should tell customers to not touch the water the first month or two and that would let the tank cycle. Luckily, my boss was a super fish nerd and got me taught up right and actually led me onto here and MFK. Its because of him that I know what I know and actually have the degree I have with getting the master's I am and the PhD opportunity I got offered. . . agh, wine . .. I digress.

Yes, I recommend that you spend any time you can educating yourself before trusting the shop girls/guys . . . they might be knowledgeable (my store always was) but they could also be full of corp BS. . . its a roll of the dice on what you're gonna get. . .

Yeppers

 

[Betts Baby]

Yeppers

What does it mean when it says your thread was deleted about water changin? Still trying to figure the ins And outs of this site.

 

[Duckie]

What does it mean when it says your thread was deleted about water changin? Still trying to figure the ins And outs of this site.

You posted the same thing twice. Some mod deleted one of the two duplicates. The duplicate you put into "general chitchat" is no more.

 

[Tifftastic]

Thanks now I'm on a new dilemma, I guess cuz I got fish from a mom & pop pet store, or maybe because my lil buddies were stressed...but it's ich...lil dots all over. I read on the web to use malachite green, or other remedies, but it's best to remove fish & doctor the tank...startin to feel like a Captain Nemo adventure...any thoughts?

You likely got ich because of the stress of the cycling. Ich is pretty much in the water all the time and when the fish get stressed their immune system weakens and allows the parasites to take hold.
I've always treated ich with salt and heat, I don't like the chemicals, but that's just me. Removing the fish won't do anything good for you as you'll just move the parasite with them. Because you are trying to cycle your tank, salt and heat will likely be the safest route to go. Malachite green is good at killing bacteria, along with parasites, and because your tank isn't established it would likely set you back over to the beginning. The link below does a pretty good job of explaining how malachite green works.

http://www.fishdoc.co.uk/treatments/malachite.htm

 

[Betts Baby]

You posted the same thing twice. Some mod deleted one of the two duplicates. The duplicate you put into "general chitchat" is no more.

Thanks I didn't remember where to post when I did that, then I looked at the posts and realized oops wrong spot. Thanks for keepin me pointed true north

 

[Betts Baby]

You likely got ich because of the stress of the cycling. Ich is pretty much in the water all the time and when the fish get stressed their immune system weakens and allows the parasites to take hold.
I've always treated ich with salt and heat, I don't like the chemicals, but that's just me. Removing the fish won't do anything good for you as you'll just move the parasite with them. Because you are trying to cycle your tank, salt and heat will likely be the safest route to go. Malachite green is good at killing bacteria, along with parasites, and because your tank isn't established it would likely set you back over to the beginning. The link below does a pretty good job of explaining how malachite green works.

http://www.fishdoc.co.uk/treatments/malachite.htm

Thanks so I already put salt in when I did the water change, do more? How much heat. I have heater on 75 degrees.

 

[Tifftastic]

How much salt did you add on the water change? And you have a 55 gallon right? Also, what temperature is the tank reading, not the heater setting.