What are some oddball coldwater fishes that you know of?

Mother Yoda

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I my many hours that I study and ponder about fishes something dawned upon me. I had the thought wondering what types of oddball fishes are out there. My question for you is could someone say what types of native fishes I could find in the Ohio/Indiana area. I would aslo like if someone could give me link to provide info on the local fishes.
 
Fish of Ohio

The above is a pretty good place to start. Some of the oddballs might include Sculpin, Paddlefish and eel but most of these are difficult to care for in the home aquaria. Some people consider Darters to be "oddball" sine they go unnoticed by most fishermen. Many of the sunfish remain small and go unnoticed for the same reason.

I guess you could say we have many under used fishes for the home aquaria but not really that many true oddballs.
 
Are there any web sites that go into depth about how to take care of these fishes? It would be very helpful
 
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Personally I would stay away from the sculpins and darters. They are very hard to care for and will accept only live food. I unfortunetly killed a couple before I realize the error of my ways.

Sunfish on the other hand are hardy, easy to care for and very personnable fish. Minnow, chubs and such are easy to take care of if they suvive the intial shock of capture and transfer. However they make great feeder fish. Topminnows are nice. Hardy and also easy to take care of.

Dont worry if none of them eat the flake food right away. Its just that they dont recognize it as food. Sooner or later they will get hungry enough and try it.

Yankee Dog
 
Are there any web sites that go into depth about how to take care of these fishes? It would be very helpful

There is one forum dedicated to captive care of native fishes. I hate posting links on one forum for another (I'm sure you can find it).

Personally I would stay away from the sculpins and darters. They are very hard to care for and will accept only live food. I unfortunetly killed a couple before I realize the error of my ways.

Sculpin are usually easy to feed but they require cool water (low 70's tops) and very high DO. I currently have dozens of darters all of which eat DRY food. Most darters are very easy to care for and don't require much room. Each darter has different requirements so selection for your tank is key. Even the more touchy darters will eat frozen food quickly, so don't be frightened by the live only feeds that so many people subscribe to with darters. Many darters thrive in various water temps and flow rates so don't worry too much about that either. Again selecting the right darter for your tank is important for the success of the fish.

killifish/topminnows are one of the easiest native to care for. They seem to eat any floating food you can put in the tank (dry small pellets, flake & freeze dried foods). They're one of my favorite natives, I currently keep about 10 species of them.

Some of the oddball sunfish are the Enneacanthus sunfish which remain small and will spawn in the home aquaria with the right conditions. Orangespotted sunfish (Lepomis humilis) are a beautiful sunfish that also stays small. I keep a few Pirate perch (Aphredoderus sayanus) which are pretty odd but require a little special attention in the feeding department.

Good luck and I'm sure you'll become a native fish addict once you get started.
 
I used to sein minnows for bait purposes and ended up keeping a few in the process, and they make great pets. I'm from chicagoland, so we have basically the same types of fish over here.
Minnows are probably the easiest to care for, but they're all dang ugly. I don't think we've got any colorful minnows this side of the rio grande. The closest you'd get to colorful out of the smaller fish would be some darters which over here are all protected/endangered fish. My experience with native darters is that they all die real quickly. I also like the horseface suckers I see when i'm wading through rivers. Never caught one, never owned one, but I've looked at enough of them to know that they're really cool looking.
I think your best bet is with sunfishes. They act and breed like cichlids and they've got all the color you'd ever want too. Here's a rundown of the sizes of sunfish:
Green sunfish - bigger, prolly up to 13" for the big guys.
Bluegills - 10" in an aquarium. These I think are the easiest to find, plus if you go to local ponds you can usually find stunted ones that are all in the 4-6" range. The males get gorgeous.
Pumpkinseed- Smaller, 4-8". By far the most colorful of the lot.
Redear sunfish - same as the green. They look like an oversized bluegill with a red patch on their gill cover spot
Longear sunfish - same as bluegill
Warmouth - 6-10" The most cichlid-like, I think. They get gorgeous, and the small ones have big enough mouths to be able to take feeder fishes. They look like a cross between a bluegill and a green terror.
Rock bass - 10- 15". Look like crappies, but they have red eyes. Larger mouths.
Crappie - 8- 15". I've never kept one, but I hear they need minnows for food. I've also heard that they're bad in newly established ponds because they have piscivore-like habits and can ruin the establishment of more desireable gamefish.
Bass- Nassssty. Around here we only really get smallies and largemouth, but i've caught spotted bass before. My dad had some in a 125 gal with some walleye and sauger, and the largemouth killed all of them. I had one that was 2" and he would bully a warmouth that was 3x his size and also had a habit of eating feeder minnows that were a bit bigger than him.
Gar - piscivores, they absolutely need minnows. They also like to bump their noses on the tank sides. They need lots of room to swim.
Pikes and musky - More nastiness. Pikes will gorge themselves on food and kill anything they're with. They need truly cold water to really do well. Muskies are a bit less tempermental and do better in more reasonable water types.
Catfish - I've had quite a few of these, they're a ton of fun to keep. Bullheads get really agressive and are active even during the day. Channel cats are a bit more on the shy side and like to hide a bit. I've never owned any of the big boys but I've heard that blue cats and flatheads are similar in nature to amazonian Redtail catfish.

Hope that helps. I think the real problem with a lot of the native fish is finding them in sizes that will fit into a reasonable aquarium. The good thing though is that when they get too big, you can just put them back where you found them!
 
Sculpin are usually easy to feed but they require cool water (low 70's tops) and very high DO. I currently have dozens of darters all of which eat DRY food. Most darters are very easy to care for and don't require much room. Each darter has different requirements so selection for your tank is key. Even the more touchy darters will eat frozen food quickly, so don't be frightened by the live only feeds that so many people subscribe to with darters. Many darters thrive in various water temps and flow rates so don't worry too much about that either. Again selecting the right darter for your tank is important for the success of the fish.

killifish/topminnows are one of the easiest native to care for. They seem to eat any floating food you can put in the tank (dry small pellets, flake & freeze dried foods). They're one of my favorite natives, I currently keep about 10 species of them.

I agree with all of this, and I think topminnows are an excellent fish if you want to start keeping natives. Topminnows will pretty much accept any food that floats around the top of the water, much like a betta. They're very calm and relaxed also, they remind me a bit of a very small koi.
The ones I kept were Blackspotted topminnows.

Darters - I keep an orangethroat and he eats mostly dried foods. They're not massively great hunters...the only way he gets guppies is by ramming them into the substrate and stunning them while trying to get them in his mouth.
We used to have several darters and they're fun to watch "battle" and flare at each other. They don't hurt each other but they will try to will display to each other when trying to gain or posess territory. All of our darters were caught in a local creek, all ate dried foods, so I would not worry too much about them accepting it.
We started with 16, we only have one darter now, where did the rest go? Read below...

Sculpin will eat just about anything that will fit into their mouth. It doesn't really matter what type of fish, if it will fit in their mouth (this sometimes includes fish that are over half its size), they will attempt to eat it and usually succeed.
As stated above, sculpin need water with a high dissolved oxygen content. You preferably want a large amount of water turnover and perhaps a current. The water must also be CLEAN, this means don't slack off too bad on water changes and make sure your tank is fully cycled.
Conditions that sculpin require are preferrable for most darter species also, one exception being a swamp darter.
We've had trouble getting ours to accept non-live food, but he recently ate a carnivore pellet so it's not impossible. Since they're ambush hunters they do prefer live foods, so keep this in mind. If you want to accilmate them to dry or frozen foods you will have to wiggle it in front of their mouth since this triggers their ambush instincts. Otherwise they won't really notice it.

Other small natives include:
Pygmy sunfish - these get to 2 or 3 inches, often smaller.
Madtoms - this is a small catfish around 3 inches max usually. They have a painful barb and many fish won't attempt to eat them.
Blackbanded sunfish, banded sunfish and fliers.

If you can't find any of these fish in your state, or regulations don't permit you catching them, most can be bought. It's not quite as fun as catching them yourself, but if you're looking for species that can tolerate cooler water it's an easy way to find some.
 
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