My Molly is having swim bladder problems. He can't swim upright often and falls over while turning..
What can fix this?
What can fix this?
Swim bladder.
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well, unfortunately there isnt much
i know when goldfish get this, pellets work, but not always, its always been fatal in my case
what are your water paramaters
sometimes high nitrates, can cause SBD
i know when goldfish get this, pellets work, but not always, its always been fatal in my case
what are your water paramaters
sometimes high nitrates, can cause SBD
nitrates are fine as are the other mollies.
i bought him 2 days ago.. i'd take him back to the pet store but im afraid they'd just let him die. is there anything that could be causing this, IE diet or bacterial?
he eats fine- just can't swim right. as long as he eats will he live? it's not pretty to look at and certainly upsetting because my 10g is the only thing i can keep up running.. but if he can live a full life, i'm willing to give him a shot.. but it would be nice to try out all the possibilities.
someone suggested my problem was diet- put him in a hospital tank and tried to feed him grated carrots as the members of another forum suggested- i even moved him into a very established 40g. neither worked, and im pretty sure my dumb decisions made it worse- not to mention stressing him out more. any other ideas? i heard perhaps trying a medication for infections.. but im not sure if this is even related.
i just wanna fix him up :sad:
i bought him 2 days ago.. i'd take him back to the pet store but im afraid they'd just let him die. is there anything that could be causing this, IE diet or bacterial?
he eats fine- just can't swim right. as long as he eats will he live? it's not pretty to look at and certainly upsetting because my 10g is the only thing i can keep up running.. but if he can live a full life, i'm willing to give him a shot.. but it would be nice to try out all the possibilities.
someone suggested my problem was diet- put him in a hospital tank and tried to feed him grated carrots as the members of another forum suggested- i even moved him into a very established 40g. neither worked, and im pretty sure my dumb decisions made it worse- not to mention stressing him out more. any other ideas? i heard perhaps trying a medication for infections.. but im not sure if this is even related.
i just wanna fix him up :sad:
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you could try a mix of melafix and pimafix, both mixed make for a pretty strong medicine
if it is indeed a swim bladder problem, try feeding thawed peas cut up into small chunks, as well as some green leaf luttuce, maybe even some spinach
and it you can find small pellets, try that also, or even slow sinking sticks
i never tried any of this stuff for mine, but its what my father reccomended when mine had it, unfotunately they died befor i could even begin any type of medication, or change of diet
what is your PH, and hardness at?
if it is indeed a swim bladder problem, try feeding thawed peas cut up into small chunks, as well as some green leaf luttuce, maybe even some spinach
and it you can find small pellets, try that also, or even slow sinking sticks
i never tried any of this stuff for mine, but its what my father reccomended when mine had it, unfotunately they died befor i could even begin any type of medication, or change of diet
what is your PH, and hardness at?
swim bladder disease may be caused by many different factors including virus, bacteria or diet:
a virus can attack the epithelium of the swim bladder causing inflammation which makes the tissue too thick for gases to diffuse into the blood system. when this happens the fish exhibits lack of buoyancy because gases have nowhere to go. unfortunately, if this is your problem, it's untreateble.
bacterial infections can cause the same kind of thickening of the swim bladder epithelium as viruses.
anatomy ... globoid-shaped fish like ornamental goldfish are predisposed to problems with the swim bladder because of their anatomy which result in mis-placement of the bladder in the body cavity. this can lead to food impactions, which in turn clog up the pneumocystic duct.
feeding dry foods which tend to take on water like a sponge and expand in the fish can result in food impactions. due to the swelling/expansion of food in the gut.
so how are you going to treat swim bladder disorders? there are two means: prevention and treatment.
1. first and foremost, maintain good water quality. this will enhance your fish's ability to naturally resist viral or bacterial infection.
2. Pre-soak flake or pelleted food. this will allow expansion to occur prior to the fish eating it, and will lessen the chance of impaction.
3. try feeding your fish a couple of peas. peas high fibre content can encourage destruction of any impaction which might be present.
4. fast your fish for a couple of days. withhold all food for three or four days, and sometimes this alone will break up the impaction and return things to normal.
5. a product called Paragon II by Aquatronics® supposedly aids in treatment of swim bladder disease.
6. add one teaspoon of salt per gallon of water.
7. treat with Mardel's Maracyn-two or other broad-spectrum antiobiotic.
8. last resort - aspiration of the swim bladder. essentially you stick a needle in the swim bladder and suck out some of the air.
a virus can attack the epithelium of the swim bladder causing inflammation which makes the tissue too thick for gases to diffuse into the blood system. when this happens the fish exhibits lack of buoyancy because gases have nowhere to go. unfortunately, if this is your problem, it's untreateble.
bacterial infections can cause the same kind of thickening of the swim bladder epithelium as viruses.
anatomy ... globoid-shaped fish like ornamental goldfish are predisposed to problems with the swim bladder because of their anatomy which result in mis-placement of the bladder in the body cavity. this can lead to food impactions, which in turn clog up the pneumocystic duct.
feeding dry foods which tend to take on water like a sponge and expand in the fish can result in food impactions. due to the swelling/expansion of food in the gut.
so how are you going to treat swim bladder disorders? there are two means: prevention and treatment.
1. first and foremost, maintain good water quality. this will enhance your fish's ability to naturally resist viral or bacterial infection.
2. Pre-soak flake or pelleted food. this will allow expansion to occur prior to the fish eating it, and will lessen the chance of impaction.
3. try feeding your fish a couple of peas. peas high fibre content can encourage destruction of any impaction which might be present.
4. fast your fish for a couple of days. withhold all food for three or four days, and sometimes this alone will break up the impaction and return things to normal.
5. a product called Paragon II by Aquatronics® supposedly aids in treatment of swim bladder disease.
6. add one teaspoon of salt per gallon of water.
7. treat with Mardel's Maracyn-two or other broad-spectrum antiobiotic.
8. last resort - aspiration of the swim bladder. essentially you stick a needle in the swim bladder and suck out some of the air.
You like to copy and post from your previous posts eh liv2padl??? :Angel:
Good info from liv2padl - as usual.
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Good info from liv2padl - as usual.
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