SICK GOLDIES?!?!!?! Pics Inside

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meaghan9930

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Ok so I noticed this big raised white spot on my 2 comet goldies today. On one of them it is taking up the whole forehead and on the other goldie their is only 2 raised white dots. I managed to capture a picture with my cell phone...of course its not that good of pic but you can kind of see what it looks like!!

Picture Attached!!

Thanks!!

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I can't tell much from the picture due to the moving fish causing it to be blurry. Go to this page and look over the pics and descriptions and see if you can find what it is... http://www.fishpalace.org/Disease.html
 
That had nothing that looked anything like this. Thanks though...It is a white pouch that is raised off the forehead. It looks like a little white cloud on the top of his head.
 
Ok here are some more pics...stil with cell phone (my camera is broken)!! I know it does not look white on top of the head but when it is in water its white. The third pic is of the front body it is very red areound the fin (circled). What is wrong with him?!?!?

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I can't make a diagnosis from the pics.

you can get red marks on a fish from septicaemia which would be quite serious - its an acute bacterial infection of the entire system...treatment if so would I presume be maracyn/maracyn 2, a broad spectrum anti-bacterial agent. White spots on a fish are often ich, which is treated with raised temperature and salt.

Please don't however go treating him with this until you have a good diagnosis.

In the meantime can you tell us what is your tank size, other inhabitants (or is it just the two comets?) and test results for ammonia, nitrite, nitrate ? It would also help to say what test kit you used.

The reason for this is that fish disease is often brought on by poor water conditions, and equally if not more important than any medication is keeping the water pristine if they are to recover.

edit : is the tank your 20 gallon ? it may be getting a leeeeetle bit tight for the 2 comets, which will not help any in maintaining good water conditions (0 ammonia, 0 nitriate, some nitrates)
 
Yes it it my 20 Gall. with the two comets. I know I am going to upgrade very soon. They have grown a great bit!!! Honestly I have never tested my water..I know I know I will go get a test this weekend which one should I get??? I do weekly water changes. I know its not ick b/c it is raied and has the appearence of a cloud..puffy and white
 
Some red around the joint of the fins is normal and is more visible on light colored fish. As stated by someone else, inflammation around fin joints can also be a symptom of more serious issues. I still don't see anything in the pics so I can't offer any kind of diagnosis.

The main thing to remember is that without having test results, it's hard to know if you are doing sufficient numbers of PWC's (partial water changes). Goldfish put out loads of ammonia via gill function and urine and as the fish grow, the amount of ammonia goes up exponentially. Goldfish grow in bodymass by eight times for each time they double their length... so a 4" goldfish is equal to eight 2" or 64 1" goldfish. An 8" goldfish is equal to over 500 1" goldfish. This means that the PWC's must also increase dramatically as the fish grow. If you were doing them once a week, all along, they are probably not keeping up with the nitrate levels any longer.

My point is... start doing 25% PWC's every other day and vacuum your gravel to get all of the detritus out of the gravel since it will also put out loads of ammonia while it's breaking down. If the water quality is bad, it will stress the fish, causing them immune system issues making them much more susceptible to health issues. While having a master test kit is essential to fish keeping, IMO, there are still many things we cannot test for and just have to presume are there even if all of the other tests show the water to be good. There are bacteria and parasites that we cannot test for. There are hormone levels that we cannot test for. Any or all of these can adversely affect fish health. I find that the best thing to do for sick fish is daily 25% PWC's to make sure it's not water quality issues and this also gives the fishes own immune system a chance to catch up on the healing aspects.
 
Get the API master test kit.

In the meantime do water changes as advised above ^.

Glad you're upgrading :)
 
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