Molly strange after giving birth

jennfier

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F molly premature labor last week. Been lethargic, eats little every since. Strangest is her shape. Her flabby belly has mostly retracted but she appears to have broken her spine or something. Have you seen this ? She's not faring well - gave birth to 90+ babies/sacs/partials. Mostly floats around, gets picked on so is in breeder trap now.

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Oooh, that looks like TB. Anyone else second it?
“The symptoms of Fish TB are usually wasting, lesions on the body, skeletal deformities (a few developed curved spines [or look like they have broken spines]), and loss of scales and coloration.”

Here is a quick link to look over. This can cause problems in people so if you suspect TB, please be very careful, if you have any open wounds-don’t put them into the water.
 
that looks bad
 
OMG, if it's that, which it surely sounds like it from all I'm reading right now, what do I do with all the other healthy fish that was in there with her ? She died just now, fins spread out like she's in rigor mortis and what looks to be hemorrhage in her belly and elsewhere. The article said to bleach everything out before starting over but how do move the healthy fish without transferring contaminated water of some amount, anywhere ? Argh, I just used a a bunch of that aquarium's water to start cycling a new hospital tank.. I'm starting to think I'm going to have a mass exodus to fish heaven. I'm medicating w/ Pimafix/Melafix (alternating between days) but supposedly nothing will cure this. I'm googling fish tb now..

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I had a guppy that had a similar thing about a week after she gave birth. I don't know if it targets pregnant livebears or if it's just the stress of giving birth that weakens them to it. Just letting you know you aren't alone.
 
Does anyone know if this could be something other than tb ? Can a fish develop that many deformities in 1 week ? Could it be something that afflicts fish during/after labor ? She was very active & hungry prior to birthing and became sluggish during and right after that.
 
jennfier said:
Does anyone know if this could be something other than tb ? Can a fish develop that many deformities in 1 week ? Could it be something that afflicts fish during/after labor ? She was very active & hungry prior to birthing and became sluggish during and right after that.

I don't know. I just had 3 more fish die in the past week. I'm down to only my male and my juvi female in that tank. Right now I'm doing some serious bleaching before I put anything back in that tank. 3 of the fish that have died have been female, 1 male and my other male looks like he's bad off too. I think I know the source and I'm kicking myself in the butt.
 
Rowangel said:
Oooh, that looks like TB. Anyone else second it?
“The symptoms of Fish TB are usually wasting, lesions on the body, skeletal deformities (a few developed curved spines [or look like they have broken spines]), and loss of scales and coloration.”

Here is a quick link to look over. This can cause problems in people so if you suspect TB, please be very careful, if you have any open wounds-don’t put them into the water.

OMG im freaking out...thats so crazy one little fish can do so much damage to a human.
 
Fish tuberculosis ? Please say it isn't so !

OK, So another sick dalmatian molly and 1 seemingly healthy dalmatian molly died too. They all came into the tank at the same time 2 weeks ago, from the same tank at the lfs. All, when taking last breaths, have splayed out fins, not clamped fines (this is when they're still taking their last breaths so likely not rigor mortis(?)).

I know tb attacks the muscles too but causes folded fins so I'm wondering if maybe this could be a sign of something else, like hole-in-the-head or maybe a genetic disorder. Also, my vet husband (who doesn't do fish), did a necropsy of the 1st fish and found no gray or brown or any nodules or spots or anything. The organs are all there with no necrotic tissue. There was some hemorrhaging in the first F fish. Can you tell I'm desperate for this to not be tb ?

There is 1 more dalmation molly from the same batch that is acting perfectly fine at the moment. All my other fish are healthy and fine. I changed 50% water today (20% yesterday), replaced the salt.

I'm just at a loss as to how to clean my system when I still have so many other seemingly healthy fish around. When I transfer them to a brand new cycled hospital tank, they're still going to take some of the contaminated water with them over, won't they ? So, effectively, that's not a complete cleaning, right ?
 
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