milwaukee MA957 regulator questions...

ryanmr

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Hey everyone. I just refilled my 5# CO2 tank today for the first time and I have a few questions. I have a pressurized system with a Milwaukee regulator/ electric solenoid setup and ran it with no problems the first 3 months. Yesterday, I think my tank started to DUMP but I happened to catch it in time. (there was still CO2 in the tank when I disconnected it, but not very much). The reason I think it was starting to dump is that my bubble count which is normally set at 2-3 bps was suddenly running much, much faster. Like 4 or 5 times faster. And I live alone (no one else to mess with it.) The fish are fine, I did a large water change immediately just to be safe. SO..... I got the CO2 tank refilled today and when I reconnected it, I got a prominent leak from the set screw on the left hand side (below the left tank gauge). I've never noticed this set screw before, let alone adjust it. It wouldn't stop losing gas. So I used a small screwdriver and tightened it bit and the CO2 stopped flowing from it. WHAT is this screw for?? And why was it leaking gas? Did it come loose possibly from me moving the regulator around? ANYWAY. my other question is this: How long should it be before the bubbles stop in my bubble counter after the solenoid shuts off? It seemed to be immediately the first few months I ran it. NOW, the bubbles seem to want to run a really long time after the solenoid is turned off. The solenoid is right before the needle valve and bubble counter (so there shouldn't be much gas trapped there) and it seems like maybe the solenoid isn't closing.....but if I turn off the solenoid & let the needle valve out considerably, I get a considerable amount of C02 before it runs out (like multiple hours worth @ 2-3 bps). I have no idea whats going on here. Did I damage something letting the tank dump?
 
I don't know about the solenoid running after it is turned off but I do know about your leak. When you attached the regulator to the tank and opened the tank valve did you play with the knob on the regulator? The set screw seems like a pressure release valve and when the knob on the regulator is set correctly it will stop leaking CO2 out of the left side of the regulator housing.
See if that helps you out a little bit. Also, if you are worried about CO2 running after the solenoid is off, then just run an air stone when the CO2 is off. My solenoid turns off with the lights and the air stone turns on at that time until the lights come on again.
Good luck.
 
thanks spunjin..... here's a new development, just got home from work and went to check my tank. My CO2 tank, which was just refilled yesterday, is completely EMPTY. =( ??? I obviously did something very wrong! the good news is that all 30 fish are fine. my pH is kinda high & there were NO bubbles whatsoever in my power reactor, so I know that that missing 5 lbs. of CO2 didn't go in the tank. I have no idea what happened and I'm not happy right now. Apparently I did something wrong to the regulator......I'll have to try to look into it further.
 
Probably didnt seal it when you put the regulator on the tank. Happens all the time. Good thing co2 is cheap!

Use a spray bottle filled with soapy water and spray down your regulator after you connect it to the tank and turn the gas on. This will show you any leaks.
 
I'm sure I sealed it well enough to keep it from leaking between the tank and the regulator. I used teflon tape and tightened the connection pretty snuggly. I don't think that was what happened. I think I did something screwy to my regulator to make it dump out through the set screw (or pressure relief valve?) on the side of the regulator itself. I'm still not sure what that screw is exactly. All I know is when I attached the refilled CO2 tank to the regulator & turned on the the tank valve, CO2 came out of this set screw. SO, I got a small screwdriver and tightened it till it stopped leaking. The regulator, seemed to work fine after adjusting the regulator valve & the needle valve. At that point I was pretty convinced that my solenoid was not shutting off though. IT seemed to take a long time for the bubbles to stop after the solenoid was turned off....I'm still not sure about that. I think that maybe the regulator was damaged somehow when the CO2 tank started to dump. I just don't know what's going on. I appreciate the replies as always.
 
I`ve read other post like this before.I can`t see the tank going empty for you would have to hear a very loud hissing sound for a long time.Unless it was not filled to start with.
 
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