Full aquarium setup-please comment and suggest

dwrf frog

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Okay so I haven't been posting for over a year (maybe two?) but finally felt the urge to do so.
After three years of running my 39 gallon aquarium with an extra ten gallon that I've used for a myriad of random stuff, I felt like sharing my experiences with everyone!

My 39 gallon was from the beginning destined to be a freshwater community tank as I travel a lot on holidays and prefer something that doesn't require as much maintenance as a reef (although reefs are awesome). What I started off with was gravel, plants, bog wood, a lava rock, filter, lighting, ect. Basically a good cycle setup. I added some platies to the tank and monitored the conditions daily (the platies are the best cycling fish a tank can have-advice from my first lps). After a week everything was ideal. I added some bacterial boost to the water every other day (as directed) and kept monitoring conditions. I later added some zebra danios, more platies, three corydoras and a ton of plants. About a month into the cycled tank's lifetime a swarm of tiny 2mm snails appeared. These have been living in the tank ever since. They can multiply rapidly if I overfeed but I tend to only see a few nowadays (which is good).
My tank didn't change much for a long time. I added the glass catfish, a few things died now and then but the tank was very healthy all along.

I recently added a bunch of new stuff (including three apple snails that started multiplying like crazy) and thus I end up with this list of things currently in my tank:

39 gallon freshwater community tank :D
Critters:
0-1000 random mini snails-species ?:/
~60 apple snails
~3 assassin snails
2 red claw crabs (pair)
3 glass catfish
9 platies (4 juvenile, 4 adult females, 1 male variatus)
4 silver hatchet fish
2 zebra danios
6 celestial pearl danios
2 bushy nose plecos (males)
1 bronze cory
2 Siamese fighting fish (pair)
4 African dwarf frogs (3 male, 1 female)

Plants:
1 giant sword plant
1 smaller swords
3 medium anubias sp.
1 large anubias nana (w. Some terrestrial growth-light green leaves)
Java Moss
1 semi-aquatic anubias sp.
A lot (occupies at least two gallons uncompressed) water valisneria
Sparse algae growth (some on plants)

Other:
Oak leaves
Dead moss with algae

(the others section refers to things I added to the tank to make it more natural)

Please leave a comment. I am always happy to hear from someone! :hi:
 
for a 39 gallon tank, that is a lot of fish and snails and a very heavy bioload. i personally would reduce the stock in the tank, especially since you travel a lot.

you mention two siamese fighting fish (bettas). are both male?
 
ok so
1. bettas will kill eachother it doesnt matter what gender unless its a sorority.
2. crabs need a brackish tank with land.
3. african dwarf frogs will have a hard time eating in that tank.

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oh and glass catfish, hatchet fish, and corys all need schools of 6. in the end you are jist really overstocked and i would advise you to take some stuff out.

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Do you have a picture of your tank? Would enjoy seeing it -- sounds busy!
 
I've never heard of a 39 gallon tank before. What are the dimensions? If it's about 30" long, 12" deep and 18" high then it's a 29 gallon tank.

60 apple snails?! Whoa...those get huge! Are you sure you mean apple snails? I haven't seen them in the hobby in a while since they are invasive and transport of them has been banned across state lines. They get to be the size of a baseball or larger.

Apple snails:

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Briggs or mystery snails, which come in a variety of colors:

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Red claw crabs do need land areas, and can't coexist with fish generally. The only fully aquatic, fish friendly crabs I know of are micro crabs.

Bettas don't "pair" like other fish and you'll usually find that one has ripped the other to shreds, usually the male is the culprit but not always. Two zebra danios? One bronze cory? These are schooling fish that need more of their own kind. Although if you have as many snails as you say, then you are very overstocked indeed, but I can't imagine these fellows are too happy in their tiny groups.

The millions of snails you are talking about are probably either ramshorn snails (brown and round) or Malaysian trumpet snails (gray, conical, with a green tip).

You probably need to do a bit more research to advance in your hobby...although congratulations on your plant growth, sounds nice.
 
Okay so thanks for commenting everyone. In case you didn't notice my tank is VERY well planted. As for the bioload comments I've gotten, for the last 2 years my tank has had 0ppm ammonia, nitrites and nitrates. pH is 6.5 and I do water changes (~20%) every three weeks. The plants remove absolutely ALL the waste. And as for the travel I do road trips of about 1-2 weeks on regular holidays and road trips up to 7 weeks in summer. I change 50% water before leaving, mix up about 5 different fish foods in a digital food dispenser (can hold enough food for 2 months) and set it to feed a specific amount twice a day. When I get home there is less water in the tank but I haven't had a death or waste spike due to holiday from the second month my tank was running! And the snails are mystery snails, Petsmart mislabeled them :/ and I will get rid of most of the snails soon. I have a friend who needs a bunch. The Red Claw crabs can be found in fresh and brackish water in Asia and one of my friends who is Singaporean has let me know that in his backyard pond in Singapore (FW) there lived a colony of those crabs (before they moved). The Siamese fighters are just fine, I have a male and a female and the male hates my platies but that's about it :) since my tank is very dense with vegetation there is almost no aggression. All my mystery snails are between 0.5 and 5 cm and so do not really overload the system. I had 6 corydoras but one of them was always solitary and hated the others (freak of nature) and when the others died and he was left I bought him new friends but they didn't do well and I gave them to a friend. I don't question that the crabs prefer brackish water but the last pair of crabs I had lasted two years until my tank heater broke and they died. I had the female berried four times but the water wasn't saline so no larvae. If you honestly think I would overstock a tank you don't know me. I carefully think everything through before I buy anything and I know how the new critters are going to fit into the system before I buy them. If they don't fit they go back to the store. Okay so after having said that I will take some pics and set them on soon. Also, I never change my filter cartridges (one of the things I've found to actually HELP the system convert wastes into nitrates... if you have enough plants to handle the extra load). Oh and before I forget the frogs do get a bit thin if I don't hand feed them (with a glove of course) so I take my time to do that. There are many YouTube tutorials if you want to see what it looks like :)


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Sounds like quite the setup. Are the assassin snails making a dent in your snail population? There are some fish that can handle that too.

As some have already said you might be a bit overstocked. A suggestion from me would be to decide what you like the most out of the tank and if it is a schooling fish as mentioned earlier just rehome the rest and make the school.

You said you had lost fish from time to time but your tank has been very healthy. If that's the case I would attribute it to just having a lot of different species kinda cramped in there.

Don't feel like anyone is attacking you in any way by the way.

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it really worries me about the frogs during your vacations. ive red they have to be feed at the least every other day.

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