Angel-Ram Hybrid

drjdp

drjdp

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Recently at a LFS, there were some fish called ANGELRAMs. They have the coloring of a blue ram with a body that is shorter from nose to tail. They said a local breeder, here in the San Fernando Valley, crossed angelfish and rams. Is this possible? I didn't know different cichild species could be bred successfully. The tank that had these fish was being medicated for ich, so I didn't buy one. They also received 90 fish; but about half had died the first night. I found the same fish in a different store; but I don't think they are very hardy.
 
Wow, it would be a real shocker if this were true. My guess is that the lfs was misinformed. They are probably long finned rams, and if they are shorter in their body shape they might be long finned balloon rams. If they bob around in the water like corks they are the balloon ones and their swim bladders have been effected by the breeding for this characteristic. This being the case, I'd avoid these fish at all costs, for ethical reasons - breeding which causes a degradation to the species of fish, and because they are even more likely to have major health issues.
Cathy
 
Agreed, the line breeding that it takes to create a long finned balloon ram is certain to be detrimental to that species (from a genetic standpoint). It's not like blue rams were the hardiest to begin with either.
 
Long finned ballon rams should never have been produced... what is wrong with the typical blue ram? It is one of the most gorgeous dwarfs IMO. also, as the moo pointed out its not like the real mckoy blue ram is hardy to begin with... why alter the genetics to make them even more unstable?
 
the lfs mean angel-fined rams
 
My lfs has some rams they call angelrams. They are not the monstrosities that balloon rams are. They strike me as slightly odd like maybe a dwarfed person would, but don't look impaired physicaly. Typicly any time some small genetic anomoly comes up that isn't to detrimental comes up there is the tendancy to isolate the fish that have it from the rest of the species. Without enough crosses they become weak.
 
I didn't know different cichild species could be bred successfully
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Just for the record, there are many cichlid hybreds. One fish common to the hobby is the Blood Parrot

I dont know of any angel ram hybreds, but I would not say its impossible. The blood parrot was a crosse between fish of a different genus, so I dont see why Microgeophagus ramirezi and Pterophyllum scalare couldn't do the same. I would not buy nor condone the creation of such things.
 
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don't these Breeders/MORONS realize that "It's Not Nice to Fool Mother Nature!?!"

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